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54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby thefrenchowl » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:35 pm

Hi

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Hum, my 54 KHK is 54 KHK 2540 and is without trap door, which in the logic of 54 models, should be about mid year. Serial pad as cast and looking like the surroundings, good and matching belly numbers...

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A 56 KHK one:

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The trap door factory photo is HD 20305, filed on May the 6th 1954, say a week to file it, so say taken end of April 1954.

Serial of that bike is either 54 KH 2132 or 2152 and that is deffo a mid year range number photographed towards the end of the model year

It appears one can't rely on the smooth progression of the engine serials to date a bike...

Furthermore, not wanting to look like an anorak, not my style, but the bike above, 54 KHK 2582 is described as all OEM untouched apart from paint, so that allows me to shoot from the hip...

[ REDACTED ] It also has a K wheel at the back with the skinny hub that would not stand to the KH torque increase (the malady of this hub is that it keeps braking the silver brase used to fix the 8 hole brake/sprocket holder...

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby JerrryR » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:54 pm

Hi All,
I had a little time so I thought I would stir the pot a little. As always I preface my remarks with "the following is what I think today, not necessarily what is correct".

First a point of clarity after reading Dave's remarks about the anonymous 54KHK. I don't believe Harley rolled out the -52A neck casting or the -52 reraked (welded) neck casting at VIN 2250. I believe they changed the top and bottom trees at that VIN number. I believe they used for the first 54s the reraked -52 neck casting frames and at some point the cast -52A neck castings that had the same profile as the reraked -52 neck castings. I contend that ALL 54s had the new neck rake profile that differed from the 52 & 53 K Models.

Second I believe the less sturdy rear K model hub was a running change in the 54 model year and not something that changed with the first 54KH. The 54 and 56 Parts books indicate that the early hub shown below was used on the 52 through 54 Ks and the newer sturdier one was used on the 55 and 56 Ks. As with so many running changes they did I believe it was somewhere in the 54 run and not a clean change with the 55 model year. This assertion is also based on viewing a number of these early hubs on pretty original looking 54Ks.

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The last topic I wanted to comment on is when the trap door appears to have been rolled out in 54. Below I have provided a table of sorts showing some of the information I have collected from some of you and whether or not your VIN has a trap door or not. I think the only conclusion (for now) that I can reach is that the trap door appears to have been rolled out in the VIN 2100s. Perhaps we could come to a conclusion (for now) that bikes prior to 2100 would not have a trap door and bikes after that VIN may or may not have. The may or may not have after 2100 does not surprise me in that we know Harley threw nothing away, implying they would have used up any remaining non-trap door cases and second since the KHK was a bit of a custom job who knows for sure when they got numbered and how long they sat around? What would help a bunch with answering this trap door question would be some of you with 54Ks sharing the first two digits of your 54 VIN and whether or not your bike has a trap door or not.

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby thefrenchowl » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:31 am

Hi Jerry,

So you sort of agree with me...

Either this bike with a K hub should have an earlier serial to be right...

Or, if it is like claimed the last KH in 54, it should have the KH rear hub...

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Mine, 54 KHK 2540, has the KH rear hub

Trap door or not: I have an entry for 55 KHRM 2203 on my site register, it is without a trap door... Engine seen on ebay a while back...

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby 55panman » Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:44 am

I have a non-trapdoor left case only 54KHK 11xx. Cracks around kicker boss and counter shaft bearing boss, that I weld repaired.
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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby strong56KH » Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:57 pm

Here's a Sportster with funny numbers being sold as a 56 KH on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davidson ... 2222580225

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby hennesse » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:18 pm

JerrryR wrote:The last topic I wanted to comment on is when the trap door appears to have been rolled out in 54. Below I have provided a table of sorts showing some of the information I have collected from some of you and whether or not your VIN has a trap door or not. I think the only conclusion (for now) that I can reach is that the trap door appears to have been rolled out in the VIN 2100s. Perhaps we could come to a conclusion (for now) that bikes prior to 2100 would not have a trap door and bikes after that VIN may or may not have. The may or may not have after 2100 does not surprise me in that we know Harley threw nothing away, implying they would have used up any remaining non-trap door cases and second since the KHK was a bit of a custom job who knows for sure when they got numbered and how long they sat around?


Jerry - The very bottom part of your trapdoor table shows that Harley was making both the trapdoor and non-trapdoor versions from around 54 KH 2100 to the end of production. With nuts and bolts, workers might wily-nilly grab a RevA or RevB part, but I think that crankcases would be a little better orchestrated. Normally, with a major change like this, they would use up the old parts before using the new. The thought occurred to me that perhaps Harley was doing a "live test" of the new trapdoor design before switching over at the beginning of the 1955 model year - if problems occurred in actual usage, they would find out, and could fix them before the 1955 model year.

Using the Shipping Date Guess-O-Meter, 54 KH 2100 shipped around mid-May 1954. Perhaps Harley took their projected sales through the end of the year, subtracted the number of non-trapdoor crankcases on-hand, and produced/purchased that many trapdoor versions. Then used two from pile A, one from pile B for the next three and one-half months.

At the end of the 1954 year, all the non-trapdoor cases were gone, no problems had developed, and 1955 dawned with all trapdoors. Well, it's a theory.


By the way, Bruce Palmer tells us that the Circle-E mark in aluminum castings stands for Eck Industries, Manitowoc, WI. Eck has a long (and intertwined) history with Harley-Davidson, starting just about the same time our beloved K-models were first coming out of Milwaukee.
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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby thefrenchowl » Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:43 pm

This is what guys have sent to me and that I published on my KR site:

54 KH 1437 USA eBay, left case only, trapless

54 KH 1994 USA eBay, left case only, trapless

54 KR 2020 USA Complete Bike

54 KH 2032 554-2168 USA eBay, left case only, trapless

54 KH 2272

54 KHK 2367 USA Bobber special

54 KHK 2540 554-**** G.B Trapless, Bonneville Special

54 KHK 2568 USA Complete Bike

55 KHRM 2203 USA eBay, engine only, trapless

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby hd54kh » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:46 am

Not sure where this fits in but my 54KH has a trap door tranny. Belly numbers are 554-1044 and VIN is 54KH10XX frame is 3F.

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby JerrryR » Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:29 pm

Hi Again,
I want to thank hd54KH, the Frenchowl, 55panman and strong56KH for responding to my request for trapdoor and approximate VIN information. Below you will find the updated Trap Door Table with notes. If anyone else has information they would like to share that would be great. The more of these data points we have the more confident we can be with our theory's.

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Re: 54 KHK in the gallery...

Postby hennesse » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Jerry,

You are correct - the triple trees changed at 54 KH 2250, not the frame. Too many changes during 1954 confused me. Apparently, it confused Harley too.

The 1954 Spare Parts Catalog appears to have an error. It shows the 45738-52 Upper fork bracket for all 1954s. If the lower bracket had the stem re-angled at #2250, then the upper bracket would have to have changed also, or the holes wouldn't line up. Notice that 45738-54 does not appear at all - in 1955 the upper bracket jumps to -54A. I suspect that the upper bracket should have split at #2250, with the -54 being used on #2250 and later.

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While most of the parts books appear near the beginning of the year, the 1954 book is dated June 15, 1954 - near the end of the year. With all the changes going on during 1954, it looks like Harley delayed publishing the book until they were pretty sure they had made the "final" changes for the year. If you use the Shipping Date Guess-O-Meter on 54 KH 2250, our guess comes out that it shipped around the middle of June. No coincidence there!

So perhaps the 45738-54 really did exist, but the harried and hurried technical editors just missed that one.

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54hdkh's trapdoor 54 KH 10xx throws a monkey wrench in my trapdoor theory. Now I wonder if the trapdoor did debut at the beginning of 1954, as the "common wisdom" says. Perhaps they ran into manufacturing difficulties, and decided to revert to the old style until they got things sorted out? If only we had more data...
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